• ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    21 hours ago

    What does that have to with anything? Harris was never under any obligation to follow that instruction once she became president.

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      21 hours ago

      Which would mean accepting a lie, thereby completely undermining calls for context or saying statements are being misquoted.

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        21 hours ago

        They are being misquoted. That was a Biden quote used to say that Harris had the same position Biden. Which is a lie.

        Harris had distinct positions on Israel. Biden telling her to have the same positions doesn’t mean she had the same positions.

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          20 hours ago

          Sure. Though we can’t quite know if even that’s true as she did not become president.

          Not a thing comes to mind.

          Was still pretty much the biggest self-sabotaging way of communicating that sentiment in the campaign.

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            19 hours ago

            Sure. Though we can’t quite know if even that’s true as she did not become president.

            I’m not sure what you’re referring to. We cannot look into an alternate timeline.

            Former presidents do not have power over current presidents.

            We can look at her public statements. And those compared to this make it clear Biden was definitely worse

            https://jewishcurrents.org/joe-bidens-alarming-record-on-israel

            At this crucial juncture, Biden undercut Obama again. After Clinton’s ultimatum, the vice president—who was still traveling in the Middle East—contacted Netanyahu himself. In their book Our Separate Ways: The Struggle for the Future of the U.S.-Israel Alliance, Dana Allin and Steve Simon describe Biden’s discussion with the Israeli prime minister as “a conciliatory call” that had the effect of “undercutting Clinton and reinforcing Israel’s generally dismissive approach to the administration’s periodically tough messaging.” An administration official remembers being “astonished” upon seeing the transcript of the conversation: “Biden completely undercut the secretary of state and gave Bibi a strong indication that whatever was being planned in Washington was hotheadedness and he could defuse it when he got back.” When Clinton saw the transcript, the official recalls, she “realized she’d been thrown under the bus.”

            Biden’s been derailing US foreign policy on the Israel since he was vp.

            Was still pretty much the biggest self-sabotaging way of communicating that sentiment in the campaign.

            Yes.