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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 days ago

The Promised Land

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The Promised Land

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 days ago
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    putting an eu flag on this feels anachronistic

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      The EU is literally doing colonialism in Africa today.

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        modern european colonialism doesn’t have much to do with god or promised land anymore, and even then a british or a french flag would be more appropriate imo

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          I think you’re forgetting the Netherlands, Spain, Belgium, Germany, Portugal, Italy, and others. Africa was (and still is) exploited by many European nations. It is more than appropriate to use the EU flag here.

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            and there are still many eu member states that can hardly be accused of directly engaging in modern colonialism, I’m simply saying we shouldn’t lump them all together

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              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Six

              Oh, wow, almost the whole gang is here! What a coincidence…

              This is a conversation about history. It doesn’t include modern member states because they were not member states when the modern European colonization of Africa first occurred.

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                This is a conversation about history. It doesn’t include modern member states because they were not member states when the modern European colonization of Africa first occurred.

                therefore,

                EU flag doesn’t fit here because it’s a symbol that’s used nowadays to represent 27 countries, not just colonisers. that’s why I initially said it was anachronistic

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                  EU is part of burger empire, burger empire does all the colonialism and imperialism today

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                  You say “therefore,” but you didn’t make an actual assertion, you just quoted me. Your point isn’t self-evident, so maybe you should make it?

                  The meme references a historical event. If you took the use of the flag to mean the current iteration of the EU, that doesn’t really feel like my problem. I’m neither you nor OP.

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          Brits and the French are just the most well known colonialists. Meanwhile, modern european colonialism is a direct extension of the promised land colonialism. The EU flag is just a convenient way to indicate Europe as a whole.

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            so… not the British? Because they’re not EU

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              🙄

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                🫣

                downvote me more for pointing out that you’re glossing over british colonialism. i believe in you!

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          What makes up the majority of the nationalities of the settler-colonialists in occupied Palestine, and how much money + from which continent (aside from North America) goes into the settler-colonial entity?

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        wdym?

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          I mean literally what I wrote there. EU countries are subjugating African nations and extracting their labour and resources.

          • https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/africaatlse/2017/11/15/lets-talk-about-neo-colonialism-in-africa/
          • https://thesciencesurvey.com/editorial/2023/07/21/neocolonialism-the-remnants-of-foreign-exploitation-in-africa/
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        You mean Russia and Wagner? Cause Russia ain’t actually part of the EU

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          Removed by mod

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            So I guess you just ran out of space if you left out the stupid shit Russia is pulling in Africa, right?

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              Oh yes, it’s so terrible how Russia is helping countries like Niger and Burkina Faso shake off western colonialism. Cry harder.

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                Lol Russia can’t even help themselves

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                  Can’t help themselves is an interesting euphemism for defeating all of NATO in Ukraine.

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                    Haha, you think Russia is winning?

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                    that’s the special operation that was supposed to last a couple days a few years ago, right? I haven’t been paying attention. Poopoo still hasn’t made any progress, has he? Weakling

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                There it is. When Russia does it, it’s helping, but when Western countries do it, it’s colonialism. God I hope you’re at least being well paid for your doublethink

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                  Feel free to provide examples of Russian colonialism in Africa. Last I checked, these kinds of things are happening, where Niger is NATIONALIZING their resources. If Russia was doing what the west was doing, then Niger would have a Russian puppet for a president who’d be selling the country off to Russian corps.

                  https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/06/23/niger-to-nationalize-uranium-to-wrest-control-over-its-resource-from-france/

                  Either you’re utterly clueless, or intentionally trying to create a false equivalence to whitewash western crimes against humanity. Either way, you’re a slimy colonizer apologist.

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                    ^ peak reddit intellect spotted on lemmy 🤣

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