Useless. Time for the Social Democrats to form their own party.

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    Representative Mike Lawler, a New York Republican, wrote on X: “This is absurd on its face. The United States has not declared war since 1942 and has conducted over 125 different military actions since that time, including in Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Presidents of both parties have relied on Article II authority, as well as AUMFs [Authorizations for Use of Military Force], to conduct targeted strikes and have not been subject to impeachment. In 2011, Barack Obama conducted an 8 month campaign in Libya to topple Gaddafi.”

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      We should have never been involved in any of that shit since WW2. 125 bad decisions don’t justify an additional bad decision.

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        I agree on most, however I’d say the Korean War was a net benefit to the US, Korea and the region.

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          How so? By dividing Korea and ensuring permanent US military presence? Because South Korea was and to some extent still is quite authoritarian and massacred a lot of democracy protestors over the past 80 years.

          The Korea war ended with two authoritarian states, as they keep being at arms with each other.

          If there hadn’t been outside meddling maybe we would have a unified, strong and peaceful Korea.

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            Also, if we decided it was a good idea, then it should have been decided by Congress! Presidential overreach has been a huge issue for decades, Democran and Republicat alike. Fuck our congress. They are not doing their jobs.

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      They always bring up Obama and Libya. Which was a joint NATO led coalition after a UN passed resolution. Not that it helped, but it is not close to Trump’s bombing of Iran. Not even close.

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      TL;DR: We can’t hold them accountable for their crimes, because they might try to hold us accountable for the same crimes.

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      This is actually a good argument, but the problem is that the other side don’t give a dick about rationality, the rule of law or anything that looks like a coherent political opinion. Democrats are still trying to win using rules that were thrown out the window by the GOP in January.

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        Better take: It was wrong when Obama did it, how about we send him to the Hague right after Trump and Biden?