nickwitha_k (he/him)

What’s a little heavy metal poisoning between friends?

Technofeudalism

Is just feudalism; use of technology to enforce authoritarian rule was always present in feudalism.

The judges who order and enforce the laws can’t just ignore the constitution. Birthright Citizenship is in the constitution.

Again, I’m really sorry to burst you bubble but do think that understanding the reality of our situation and tearing down the illusions is important.

1. The Judicial is charged with interpreting the law and arbitrarion. Not enforcement. That’s on the Executive branch.
2. The US Constitution has been increasingly ignored in both the Judicial and Executive branches since about the 60s. For example, the SCOTUS invented “qualified immunity” in 1967 to allow the Executive branch to effectively ignite constitutional rights. Their fuckery means that “it literally says it in the US Constitution” is insufficient to show evidence harm from being deprived of constitutional rights. Effectively, an identical case must have been tried, which makes it nearly impossible (because of the circular dependency).

You can’t make up some bullshit that is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and win in court.

Sadly, this is not exactly accurate. See:

• civil asset forfeiture (blatantly violated the literal wording and any good faith interpretation of the 4th and 6th Amendments)
• qualified immunity (was literally invented with no basis in existing law, violates the wording of the law as passed, which was maliciously transcribed to omit a clause explicitly banning immunity, and violates the 7th Amendment right to a jury trial for civil damages exceeding $20)

Feudalism is based on Chivalry where the Lords have a mutual responsibility to their subjects and serfs.

That’s the theory. However, as the European feudal lords answered to noone but maybe a king or the pope, they could, and did, abuse their absolute power over their serfs. It was literally an honor system where the consent of the governed was frequently ignored until rebellion occurred.

They are not trying to create feudal kingdoms, they are trying to establish little dictatorships.

I could see argument for both sides of that. I lean towards feudalism being the goal as there is an explicit desire for serfdom and rank based upon wealth (even though they seem to ignite the fact that most of their wealth is in investments in the stock market, etc that would become meaningless if the nation-state were to cease to exist).

The billionaires that he works for are actively trying to destroy the country so that they can establish their feudal kingdoms.

I’m not saying that there isn’t “something big” (though, these other things are pretty big).

Here’s some examples of things that I mentioned:

• Assassinations: There are a lot of examples to choose from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1920)
• Deindividuation: The psychological phenomenon where members of a group with high levels of anonymity lose sense of self and become increasingly likely to engage in anti-social, violent behavior https://www.britannica.com/topic/deindividuation and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deindividuation
• Use of makes to terrorize: Why not go to the right-wing OG terrorists https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

EDIT: Sorry. Different thread.

They’re hiding their identities likely for several reasons:

• Some are almost certainly not even government employees.
• A fair number probably belong to known right-wing terrorist orgs.
• Some of them are “closeted” neo-nazis who don’t want people in their communities to know that they are neo-nazis.
• They fear retaliation for their blatantly illegal actions. Inaction by those with power to help is forcing the populace towards violence as the only means to justice. Also, underground resistance networks have historically conducted assassination of ranking members of occupation forces - they hope that this will protect them from the inevitable consequences of their actions if they succeed in holding onto power and unmaking the last vestiges of democracy.
• Concealing identity provides similar deniability for their heinous actions to that of firing squads and other executioners. This makes it easier for them to excuse their actions as “just following orders” (you know, the perennial nazi defense to avoid accepting responsibility for their own actions).
• Concealing their identity is part of the terrorism. If it’s not possible to know who these people are, they could be your neighbors, or schoolboard members, or even family. This uncertainty is intentional to try to keep the populace in fear of retaliation of exercising their Constitutional rights or resisting. (ie, if your neighbor is an ICE neo-nazi and you don’t know, they can inform on you to their superiors, if they see you leaving for/arriving from a protest).

It’s a bribe.

“Disappearing someone” goes back a ways. It’s more than kidnapping or abduction because it is an action taken by authoritarian regimes to not just kidnap someone but, generally make it nearly impossible to locate them, often with torture and/or murder and ensuring that the body isn’t found. The goal is to terrorize the populace by making dissidents and others in targeted populations disappear without a trace, effectively erasing them from their communities. This is coupled with tacit refusal of anyone in government that is supposed to help to get involved.

ICE is openly committing terrorist acts in the exact same way that the gestapo and stasi did.

I see it as likely either:

1. Wanting to murder wide swaths of the population so that they are less worried about uprisings.
2. The Evangelical Doomsday Cult wanting to maximize harm to humanity so that they can bring about their Armageddon.

Oof! Hey, at least on the bright side it would be an extended repose.

First thing? Honestly, probably curl into the fetal position and start bawling for a while as I fully relax for the first time since circa 2007.

BBS’s

You can still do that, if you want.

• SDF (shameless plug) is still around
• Tildeverse, a loose association of pubnixes exists
• Gopher and Gemini (a protocol inspired by Gopher) have had some minor resurgence.

You are entirely wrong regarding brexit voters.

You’re a Brexiteer, I take it? https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2053168018773964

Sorry if the reality that a significant number of the Leave voters are just racists upsets you. The fact that Brexiteers made life harder for my family in the occupied counties rather upsets me.

You are wrong regarding Trump.

Care to clarify your meaning there and support it with anything?

it is entirely of course entirely reasonable not to vote for the continuation of the political economic ideology that made Trump inevitable.

This is very much looking like embracing the fallacy of Denying the Correlative. The choices in the US election were only:

1. Fascism, or
2. Not fascism

There were no other options. It’s a two party FPTP system, making claims otherwise factually inaccurate. Refusing to vote against fascism was implicitly supporting fascism because refusing to vote has in recorded electoral history only ever helped the right-wing. It really is that simple.

Refuse to oppose fascism in the bare minimum fashion (other action is required) and you’re intentionally enabling harm to those that fascists hate.

You have a lot to learn. You will not learn it now.

I’ve learned that a lot of people claiming to care about humanity are just myopic egotists and lack basic maths skills. What are you suggesting needs learning?

Oh is this a homework assignment I’m required to do? Then Gosh, yes Sir! I am, all the time.

You might recall that you were making assertions that those of us pissed off at the betrayal are doing nothing.

It amazes me that you and your ilk are not even bothering to even ask why the dem candidates made a choice to support genocide,

The dem candidates made the choice to stick with the status quo, which you either knew they were not going to break with or were delusional. This genocide has been happening for nearly 80 years and you lot only started caring about it when millions of right-wing cash poured in to influence people to self-disenfranchise.

The “tactic” of not-voting if the only non-fascist option didn’t do what you wanted was, plainly, stupid. Inaction only helps the oppressor and non-voting has only ever helped the right-wing get elected.

you are on lemmy whining why didnt everyone else support genocide

And there’s the attemp to deflect responsibility again. You know that your fallacious claims are not based on reality - you have already demonstrated that you can think abstractly through your creative use of invented animal abuse to try to make yourself seem morally superior. Reality is not black and white, as much as you lot try to assert it to be.

and you see nothing wrong with that, and assign zero blame to the leaders who made a choice to support genocide. You hold them to no account whatsoever.

Of course, you know well we hold them responsible for their actions and would have them all tried for complicity but that’s become even more remote a possibility, thanks in part to you.

Pathetic

So, you continue to try to assert superiority over others. Congrats, I guess.

So, since you’re so concerned about people being held to account for genocide, are you going to accep responsibility for your part in making things worse for Gaza as well as the rest of the globe? Or are you just going to hide behind your faux action that explicitly helped get fascists into power?

How about the global genocide through acceleration of climate change? Are you happy that you helped participate in supporting that? Are you happily accepting responsibility for skiing the part?

How about the mass deportations? How about the illegal and punitive imprisonment of people supporting a free Palestine? Are you proud of your role in making that happen?

You clearly know nothing about the actual motives of brexit voters. but call other people short-sighted.

I’m well-acquainted with the nativism, financial illiteracy, and people mistaking support for right-wing elites for being in any way anti-establishment but, the motive weren’t the topic. The relationship to Brexiteers is their reaction to event negative thing that they were warned about coming to pass and their claims of “nobody said this would happen” and “this isn’t what I voted for”, as well as numerous other statements to avoid taking any personal responsibility.

The choice was Trump, or a continuation of the political/economic ideology that made Trump inevitable.

Trump was only inevitable because of self-fulfilling prophecy. His is a minority party, when support from the populace at large is concerned. Positive changes had been happening, like legalizing homosexual marriage (something that’s targeted under this regime for repeal, along with interracial relationships).

And yet you blame ‘non-voters’ for all of the ills of fossil-fuel powered neo-liberal capitalism, and then have the cheek to call others short-sighted. Grow up.

They share the blame, yes. Non-voters are the largest voting bloc and have been for decades. Their myopic refusal to meaningfully engage with the political tools of democracy, desiring only instant gratification and ego stroking instead, is why neo-libs have had any power whatsoever. That they helped usher in fascism is just the cherry on top of the shitty behavior.

Grow up.

Don’t help fascists.

As someone else stated, they are indeed worse than people say. The has been massive consolidation in the industry, to the point where nearly every app is owned by the same company. And that company has been caught, multiple times, catfishing their own users with bots that then ghost them.

The company is pure Chicago School economics; they don’t care about their users or product, just extracting money from people. Generally, this is men (though not always) as the culture cultivated in the apps is pretty shallow and messed up.

Overall, it’s a much better time to engage in some sort of social hobby of the like. Success rate will likely be higher and the experience less depressing.

Ah yes… The moral high-ground of…

checks notes

Enabling fascism by helping the guy, who stated that Netanyahu should “finish the job” and publicly discussed turning Gaza into hotels, elected…

If you were any more in denial, you’d be in danger of crocodile attacks.