FDR may have tried to frame it that way in 1938 but 25 cents an hour was not a living wage then, either. Not really:

As others have rightly pointed out, the twenty-five-cent minimum wage passed at the time only amounted to the equivalent of a $4.54 per hour minimum wage is 2019 dollars. This wage is enough to avoid starvation but would obviously fall short of the kind of lifestyle proponents of a $15 per hour minimum wage advocate for today.

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It’s true that the minimum wage is a not a living wage. I don’t know when it ever was.

Just as a point of perspective, I’m 51 and my wife is 46. We are entirely independent and on great terms with all our parents. I still don’t relish the idea of staying overnight at her parents house with them.

Pretty condescending though and makes a lot of age based assumptions.

Gotta fight that declining birthrate. What better way than to dump babies into a home that you know is getting ready to care for babies?

Yeah it just sounds ridiculously high in low cost of living areas where Fox’s faithful all live.

They really do hear this as “look at this outrageous tax on small business owners” instead of “oh look a living minimum wage - that would be good for Timmy when he graduates high school next year.”

Because the single most most thing in the entire world to them is making absolutely sure at all costs that no one “bad” ever gets anything for free. Even if that means leaving whole generations of their own kind without a pot to piss in. Better that 100 deserving should starve than one degenerate get a free lunch.

Oh shut up.

—GenX

It’s interesting - the psychology of that. Recently I was answering someone who asked why the US doesn’t have more of a working class movement, and a big part of my answer was that no one in the US thinks of themselves as part of the working class. Even if they are unarguably at the base of the economy, their plan is to get out of the working class, not make it better. Similarly, I can see Americans having a problem accepting themselves as a permanent minority. In other parts of the world this is just a fact of life. Christians in Syria know they will never be a majority. When rebels ousted Assad, one of the first things they said was that they will treat minorities well. Those minorities know who they are. Similarly, Kurds are 15% of Iraq and that is just a fact based on hundreds of years of ethnic history in the region. But in the US, everyone is on their way to something better (at least so we think). Parts of Europe had very formal class systems for long periods of history so there are people who just think of themselves as working class and they stand for workers’ rights. Not so in the US. No one here is working class or a monitory. We’re too full of all the rhetoric about being created equal.

You never know - sometimes people go against the grain. For example some of the best parents I know had shitty parents growing up.

I’m just hearing it for the first time in this thread but my first impression isn’t great. Do you really want a label that brands you as a “minority?” That doesn’t seem like a great first step toward equality.

It’s the same phenomenon as “LGBTQI+”

It was literally LGB at one point. I understand the concept of inclusion but I think pursuing it by appending and appending and appending is a lousy way to go. I believe the “Q” was finally added in part because it was hoped to be some kind of catch-all, but that didn’t work.

I know there are more important things to say about this receipt, but since everyone has already said them:

Wow, look at that receipt. So simple. Actual ink on actual paper. No coupons on the back. And one line per item. No “price - savings = real price!” bullshit or anything else. I long for that kind of simplicity in even the little things in life.

Don’t blame me. I held my nose and voted for her. That was hard. I travelled to a neighboring state to canvass door to door for Bernie’s first campaign. I swore long ago that I would never vote for anyone who authorized the Iraq war, as she voted to do. And I happen to be LGBT, and she has never been much of an ally to us.

I set all that aside and voted for her.

There’s no feeling quite like giving up your dignity for absolutely nothing.