Fun fact: hand sanitizer still doesn’t work. There are many strains of nasty bugs that survive even high alcohol concentrations, let alone chemicals like benzalkonium chloride. There’s a reason they have to put, “kills 99.x%”
Antibacterial soaps are banned in Europe because all they do is give germs the evolutionary pressure to get even better at surviving these chemicals.
It has some to do with evolutionary pressure but more to do with water, surfactants and friction in the right application works very very well for antimicrobial purposes and the addition of antibacterial chemicals is potentially harmful to you without benefit(this is why both Europe and the US largely banned triclosan soap). There’s nothing we’d really lose by encouraging resistance to things like alcohol sanitizer which works for most things, though. That works in a different way. The metabolic demands to resist that would include things like spore forming. That doesn’t just appear in a plasmid with some selective pressure like antimicrobial resistance.
Regardless of the marketing term “anti-bacterial” on the label, there are quite a few specific ingredients in this area that are banned in the EU but in wide use in the US.
I’m truly inspired by your ability to back pedal every time you’re called out on your bs. You’ve inspired me to never admit I might be wrong, despite the evidence to the contrary
Regardless of the term “anti-bacterial” on the label, there are quite a few specific ingredients in this area that are banned in the EU but in wide use in the US. Two of your links are to products in the UK also, which has totally different regulations from the rest of Europe
Regardless of the marketing term “anti-bacterial” on the label, there are quite a few specific ingredients in this area that are banned in the EU but in wide use in the US.
“Antibacterial” soaps aren’t strictly banned in Europe, but many of the ingredients used in antibacterial soaps in the US are. Sorry these dense mfs giving you grief
Fun fact: hand sanitizer still doesn’t work. There are many strains of nasty bugs that survive even high alcohol concentrations, let alone chemicals like benzalkonium chloride. There’s a reason they have to put, “kills 99.x%”
Antibacterial soaps are banned in Europe because all they do is give germs the evolutionary pressure to get even better at surviving these chemicals.
It has some to do with evolutionary pressure but more to do with water, surfactants and friction in the right application works very very well for antimicrobial purposes and the addition of antibacterial chemicals is potentially harmful to you without benefit(this is why both Europe and the US largely banned triclosan soap). There’s nothing we’d really lose by encouraging resistance to things like alcohol sanitizer which works for most things, though. That works in a different way. The metabolic demands to resist that would include things like spore forming. That doesn’t just appear in a plasmid with some selective pressure like antimicrobial resistance.
https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi1265/unicura-ultra-antibacterieel-handzeep
https://www.plus.nl/product/dettol-wasgel-antibacterieel-gevoelige-huid-fles-250-ml-885466
https://www.jumbo.com/producten/palmolive-hygiene-plus-keuken-antibacteriele-vloeibare-handzeep-300ml-616649FLS
Regardless of the marketing term “anti-bacterial” on the label, there are quite a few specific ingredients in this area that are banned in the EU but in wide use in the US.
I’m truly inspired by your ability to back pedal every time you’re called out on your bs. You’ve inspired me to never admit I might be wrong, despite the evidence to the contrary
This is the only comment I’ve made on this post, and it doesn’t backpedal? How is your reading comprehension so low?
https://www.boots.com/dettol-anti-bacterial-original-soap-100g-10261544
https://www.indexdirect.ie/product/WX07212/Antibac-Soap-250ml-Pk6
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/314119478
Ah, my favorite genre of post
Regardless of the term “anti-bacterial” on the label, there are quite a few specific ingredients in this area that are banned in the EU but in wide use in the US. Two of your links are to products in the UK also, which has totally different regulations from the rest of Europe
https://www.hebe.pl/carex-zapas-antybakteryjnego-mydla-w-plynie-1000-ml-000000000000371303.html
https://tukwila.de/index.php/product/dettol-soap-seife/
Regardless of the marketing term “anti-bacterial” on the label, there are quite a few specific ingredients in this area that are banned in the EU but in wide use in the US.
“Antibacterial” soaps aren’t strictly banned in Europe, but many of the ingredients used in antibacterial soaps in the US are. Sorry these dense mfs giving you grief