• bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Never trust the polls. If you are in NYC and haven’t voted yet, do not trust the polls, you need to go out and vote tomorrow.

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      Remember to fully fill out your ballot with five names too! The only reason Adams won last time was because some people didn’t fully fill out their ballots.

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        Remember to fully fill out your ballot with five names too!

        I don’t think this is true. In fact, people should not be ranking Cuomo at all.

        You can rank five names but you do not need to.

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          There are more than five candidates so pick five good apples and exclude Cuomo entirely. To maximize the chance of your vote counting you should fill in all five because depending on how many rounds there are your vote may not count if you didn’t rank all five. Please read the comments other people have been posting in reply to mine.

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            Right, but my point is that if you only agree with three candidates, you do not need to rank five. You can just rank the three that you are comfortable supporting.

            There was heavy implication in the thread that you need to fill in all five or else it won’t count.

            By having people believe that they need to fill in all five when that is not true, could lead to votes for candidates that people would not have otherwise ever supported because they misunderstood the assignment.

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        You have to rank 5 candidates? What the hell is the reasoning behind that?

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          You are NOT required to rank all 5 choices for the ballot to be valid! A single bubble filled in will be counted. The voter guide and voter instructions explicitly mention this in multiple places. What grandparent comment meant was that if more progressive voters who only ranked 1 candidate had also ranked Kathryn Garcia in any position 2-through-5 (and ranked Adams below or not at all), then maybe Garcia would have won. Voters who only rank 1 candidate are missing out on the full power of their ranked choice vote if their 1st-and-only candidate is eliminated early.

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            I’ve just never personally voted using RCV on a ballot that requires you to rank that many candidates for a valid ballot. That seems unnecessary.

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              You can rank up to 5 for a valid ballot, so you can pick anywhere between 0-5 candidates. What the person who you originally commented to was saying was that in the 2021 election, many people voted as if this is first pass the post, and only ranked a single candidate with no backups. When that candidate didn’t get a majority, there were no choices for 2-5, and that’s how Adams got the votes.

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                Yes, but people need to be aware that they do not need to rank five candidates. Which is what your comment heavily implied.

                Ranking candidates you do not like, even if ranked last, still can count as a vote if it comes to it.

                If you do not like Andrew Cuomo, do not rank him at all

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                  Not sure how I implied that, but it was not my intention. To reiterate, you can rank anywhere between 0-5 candidates. Considering that there are 11 candidates on the ballot, plus write in, you could rank 5 candidates easily without ranking Cuomo. There’s no need to vote for him at all.

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              Whoo boy, you should have been in Portland when we did it:

              Mayor:

              City Council (3 open seats per district):

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              I’ve just never personally voted using RCV on a ballot that requires you to rank that many candidates for a valid ballot. That seems unnecessary.

              Several implementations of it in Australia are full preferential, and require ranking all candidates (and there’s a kind of hybrid optional implementation in the federal senate where there is a minimum but you can rank as many as you want). The NYC one is still optional preferential actually, which is in my view a bad system because people get tricked into “just voting 1” and their vote consequently has less power to influence the result.

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      Totally. Chances are fair that this is disinformation to lull potential voters into staying home thinking it’s in the bag. It ain’t over! Vote!

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      Polls are legitimate data on the sentiments of voters. However, they are prone to various error, and when combined with the tendency of partisans to trumpet polls that favor their narrative and dismiss or ignore those that don’t, this can build a misleading view of what’s happening.

      This is just one poll, so while it is interesting and suggests a tightening race, it’s probably an outlier. So I think my prior is still that Cuomo is heavily favored, but we won’t know for sure until the results are counted.

      So trust the polls but understand that they are not prophecies, only one clue among many as to what is really going to happen.

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    Remember, these articles are to placate the lazy, assume you still have to vote for him to win.

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    Establishment Dems endorsing damaged goods like Cuomo isn’t a good look. Talk about learning nothing from their mistakes. These fools need to be overthrown.

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        They’ve raked in billions by losing elections and doing nothing; this is exactly who they are and how they wanted things to be.

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    WHAT? HOW can someone who LISTENS to New Yorkers be AHEAD of a Sexual Convict who ONLY Listens to RICH People? We need to Spend BILLIONS Studying this!

    -The DNC!

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      We need to Spend BILLIONS Preventing this!

      I’m concerned that now that it looks like they have a chance, it’ll be lots of money on character assassination and “now’s not the time” messaging. Including from AIPAC.

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        Now it’s so the fucking time. Democrats have failed us. Continue failing on a daily basis.

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          Yeah, I agreed with “now isn’t the time” when there was a chance to prevent agent orange redux, but now… Very much the time.

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        Well they’re going to have to hurry it up if they want to prevent this one, voting is tomorrow I believe.

        Note that it’s extremely likely that ranked choice will be the deciding factor here as Cuomo may “win” first choice but lose the ranked majority. Expect challenges in implementing ranked choice from establishment dems in the immediate future.

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          Oh, didn’t realize, that is hopeful then

          And absolutely agreed in the ranked choice voting. I commented somewhere else that Ohio is a perfect example of the Democrat party going all in to defeat it. Now if it’s going to have a chance it’ll be an overwhelming referendum and the party on control already has a history of ignoring those without repercussion.

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            I actually think RCV is maybe bad for Mamdani. He has a lot of energy but is the furthest left candidate. RCV tends to favor moderates, and Cuomo is probably perceived as more moderate, rightly or wrongly.

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              “More moderate” in the scope of a Democratic party should be a middle of the party mild progressive. Cuomo is on the extreme right end of the options.

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                Yeah it’s complicated. It might help more radical campaigns to launch but the actual tally should favor consensus candidates who I expect to be moderate. But it will be interesting to see what happens.

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          Didn’t Newsom veto one of these before? There’s a reason this stuff is implemented using citizens’ initiatives.

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    Haven’t been keeping a close eye, but anybody is better than Cuomo

    Mamdani has been endorsed by AOC, and seems to be who the rest of the progressives are coalescing around.

    Even with ranked choice, Cuomo and Weiner are going to split the neoliberal sex pest vote.