• wischi@programming.dev
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    2 days ago

    Chances are you wouldn’t do anything, like all the other people seeing kidnappers with masks and doing nothing. Looks like the rest of the world was right when they told Americans that their arguments for keeping guns to prevent the government from going rogue was all talk.

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      2 days ago

      I mean I bought my first gun because of what’s going on. Revolutions and wars have often been fought by only a few percent of a population. Most people work jobs and keep society plugging along while shit is done by a few.

      You sound pretty flippant with people’s lives, why don’t you go grab a gun and suicide into an armed force for great justice? There’s a difference when you’re backed into a corner. If they’re at MY door, what else can be done but defend my life with my life? Hope I don’t get deported to a gulag without due process? Hope that court orders are obeyed when they haven’t been?

      Other than that, I’ll wait until there’s an actual organized resistance than suicide by cop as a martyr. I have people I’m responsible for.

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        1 day ago

        If they’re at MY door, what else can be done but defend my life with my life?

        That’s what I meant with you wouldn’t do anything. First you’d still have other options and if ICE is at your door and you start shooting at them it will probably kill you faster.

        You sound pretty flippant with people’s lives

        That was not my intention. It totally get why nobody is doing anything, especially with guns, because of the consequences. I just pointed out that so many people in favor of armed civilians bring completely flawed arguments and now we actually see in action how useless a “regulated militia” is.

        why don’t you go grab a gun and suicide into an armed force for great justice?

        Why would I? I don’t have a gun and never argued in favor of armed civilians, because it’s completely useless (and research shows that it only increases the chances of domestic violence and suicide). Maybe it wasn’t useless at the time the constitution was written but the current situation shows that it is now. Besides that I live in Vienna.