I think progressives never thought about this because we banked on immigration and demographic change allowing us to win culturally and electorally but the issue is immigrants tend to be overwhelmingly male, that is how Trump won actually he won over a lot of Hispanic,Black,Asian and indigenous men who feel humiliated by a new culture, economy and world.

So what can we do rhetorically and policy wise to win more young men over ?

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    Christ - some of these replies are exactly what a lot of women talk about when we say that Lemmy has a misogyny problem.

    Blokes really don’t recognize how much harder shit actually is for women, overall. It would be lovely to just sit on a bench for 5 mins without a stranger coming to chat me up, or if people would stop crediting men for my work when they don’t even ask for it.

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      Your inability to control your valid trauma response is a hindrance for serious politics. Less histrionics, more calm thoughtfulness, please.

      If you can’t handle being told this, you don’t want equality, you want handouts.

      Shit is much harder for women in a grand variety of axes, but this is politics. Shit is hard for men, too, and if you’re not prepared to enter into these conversations to listen to men, if you come here to center women in a topic about men? You’re part of the problem with progressive politics.

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        Are you actually trying to say you are not a misogynist while simultaneously calling a woman hysterical? Did you know that the Greek word for womb is “hystera”?

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          I used the word “histrionic” – “histrio” is Latin for actor.

          Elsewhere I said:

          She’s performing histrionic masculinity; men who can’t control their emotions become a problem for the movement.

          Quit being such a weak man, allowing your emotions to govern your reaction.

          I’m a misandrist: men fucking suck, and your masculine display of emotional incontinence is what makes men such a problem for women.

          As to misogyny? I don’t think women are all that great, either, but I’d rather work with women than men, for the most part.

          Provided they can woman up.

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            I think I’m just gonna tag you as a misogynist with my Lemmy client and move on with my day. Maybe less demanding women debate you in the marketplace of ideas might be good for you. This is weird and beggy.